Posts tagged lgbt
Posts tagged lgbt
I’m from Texas, so I’m pretty used to being in a REALLY religious (usually Christian but in certain parts Muslim) climate. I am currently spending my summer in San Francisco with my girlfriend, which is an area that is largely secular. In fact, I’d say most of the West Coast is pretty secular relative to where I’m from.
Or so I thought.
My girlfriend and I took a road trip from San Francisco to Seattle (which is why I haven’t been posting much, sorry! I pretty much only had my phone for awhile there). We took a really indirect route because we had a lot of stops we wanted to make. The most out-of-the-way place we went was Crater Lake National Park in Oregon. We really had to drive through some of the backwoodsy areas of that state where we saw a lot of “YOU’RE GOING TO HELL WITHOUT JESUS” billboards and stopped in a couple of places where we didn’t particularly feel safe acting like a couple in public together. We just… didn’t expect that from a state sandwiched between California and Washington. We figured that was just the country part of the state, though, and it would be better once we got to Portland.
In the downtown area of the largest city in Oregon, my girlfriend and I got straight up mean mugged by several people while doing little more than holding hands. We got stared at like people had never seen two girls together as a couple before. It was generally just REALLY weird. I wouldn’t even expect people to react like that in most parts of Texas.
tl;dr - I recently traveled to Oregon and found it to be surprisingly religious and LGBT unfriendly.
I was just wondering if any of our followers were from Oregon and could maybe attest to the religious nature of the state? Is it really that bad or were we just being overly sensitive to the matter? Has anyone else traveled somewhere and was genuinely surprised by how religious that area was?
Labels frustrate me. Gay, straight, male, female, atheist, theist, Republican, Democrat - all of them do. Because we use these labels to sort people into these groups and make blanket assumptions about the lot of them based solely on these labels.
But when we assume characteristics about a person based on a label (even if it is one that they have applied to themselves), we are not allowing ourselves to truly know that person, and they get judged before we know anything about them.
People are far too complex to just be able to tell everything, or even anything, about them from a few adjectives. Someone might be a gay Democratic politician but they could still be hateful towards Jews. Someone with a PhD in theoretical physics could be a staunch Christian.
But we assume things about people - we assume that atheism is associated with intelligence or amorality (depending on the lens through which you look at it), theism with ignorance or morality. We assume that people born with a Y chromosome will fit into Male gender roles. We assume that a white straight male is automatically born into a better situation than a black gay female. We assume that teens are too stupid to think about anything except sex and music, and that adults are too busy thinking about more important things. We assume so many things about so many people that are completely arbitrary.
And I’m sick of it. If someone is an atheist, it means they do not believe that there is a God. It does not make them a better person than any Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or Jew, nor does it make them a worse person. If someone is born with two X chromosomes, it means that they will have breasts and a vagina. It does not mean they must wear dresses instead of suits, it does not mean they cannot call themselves Steven. If someone is a Republican, or Conservative, it means they have a Conservative political ideology. It does not mean they hate black people, gay people, or poor people.
So please, I ask you, if you find yourself generalizing about whole groups, painting the world in these us vs. them (white vs. non-white, cis vs. LGBTQ, women vs. men, conservative vs. liberal, atheists vs. theists) ways, remind yourself that the world is NOT split up into good people and Death Eaters - it is FAR, FAR more complex than that.
Even though we are in a world where we interact with far more people than our brains evolved to interact with and treat as individual people, we must do our best to overcome this bias to sort others into these groups, and make assumptions about a person’s identity based on a particular facet of it.
VERY well said
This might explain to that Iamxalex dude from earlier precisely why atheists do debate and argue with Christians and people of other religions about the existence of their God. Because it’s the lynchpin in arguments for murder, brutality, violence, suffering and bigotry.
Taking away the lynchpin in these justifications won’t get rid of such things, but it removes an important and widely used rationale for committing and supporting them.
Some people are gay. Get over it!
It’s recently come out that here in the UK, some bus driver refused to do his job and left passengers stranded in the cold just because he didn’t agree with this advert.
I’m all for employees rights and shit, but when you pull a move like this- and for that kind of motivation- you don’t deserve to keep your job. Absolutely horrid.
Put back religion where it belongs.
I propose it belongs in an giant fire pit of doom, but my guess is that you were implying that it belongs in a Church.
There is no “keeping religion to yourself.” People will always feel the need to shove their religious perspectives down peoples’ throats. I say we eradicate them!
^ Wow. What an absolutely wrong way of thinking about it. That line of thinking makes you no better off than the religious fundies who persecute people based on what they believe.
I’m religious, and I don’t force my religion on anyone. I know many people who are the same. Stop fuckin’ generalizing everyone who is religious as some sort of crazy bible-thumping evangelist who’s out to oppress and hate.
Why are atheists even in there? Wow. SO OPPRESSED.
YEP, OPPRESSED. People who doesn’t have a freaking clue about the matter WHATSOEVER should just shut up until they learn at least MINIMUM amount of data in order not to come out as a redneck idiot.
"All laws against atheists holding office were ruled unconstitutional and unenforceable by the 1961 Supreme Court case Torcaso v. Watkins on a first amendment basis."
So most (not all) of those laws are meaningless.
A far more current and pertinent example would be societal effect outspoken atheism has on those who don’t believe, at least for the US and UK. Or the treatment of atheists in lesser developed countries.
The United States has its problems with atheists, but I wouldn’t consider it equal to the LGBT community, or women.
Catholic bishop Philip Tartaglia hasn’t even taken up his new post as Archbishop of Glasgow yet, but he’s already facing calls for his resignation.It’s emerged that in a recent speech (11 April) at a religious conference at Oxford University he accused society of being “very quiet” about “the relationship between the physical and mental health of gay men”. He went on to suggest that the premature death of Labour MP David Cairns last year was partly due to his homosexuality.
Well, wasn’t that just lovely? In a double whammy for him, today Scotland’s government announced that a bill for Equal Marriage will be brought forward, meaning that it will most likely be law and operational by 2015!
Almost makes you feel sorry for him, doesn’t it?
No, not really.
My personal motivation in life.
Minnesota For Marriage Calls For Execution Of Gays
Via Good As You.
The irony of that last comment is beautiful.
Potholer54: How to confuse a creationist- homosexuality, evolution and the Bible.
This guy never fails to make me laugh, and think. Also, it contains Ricky Gervais, who I think is one of the funniest people taking part in the discussion of religion.
I love Dusty Smith, this video is awesome.
Thanks to robintheghost for the submission!